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Melanie Lenart's avatar

Interesting argument, but it makes a big assumption: that vegans want bigger houses and more brand new stuff, such as clothes. While we all need food and shelter and basic necessities, some of us, vegan or not, actually prefer small houses and second-hand stuff, including clothes. Perhaps the bigger problem is overconsumption.

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Carl Welty's avatar

We have been convinced that our lumber is grown in natural forests, the reality is our lumber is grown in mono crop plantations with no biodiversity with more ecological downsides (water pollution, flooding, depleting soil) that needs to be included in the total ecological picture. The amount of land used for growing wood products in California is 16.1 million acres - the next largest category of ag production is "all grains" at only 6.2 million acres. We are told by the lumber industry that lumber is renewable, this only true within a very narrow definition of “renewable”

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